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Who's Learning Japanese?
Topic Started: Mar 7 2008, 12:03:54 AM (7,304 Views)
by8n7	May 16 2008, 05:20:01 AM Post #41
<# this is my heart to you Posts: 1,852 Group: YUI Lovers Member #4,582 Joined: Oct 17 2007	same here..^ but my japanese friend is stupid and wont teach me..actually his mom was..but they were getting too busy..and i didnt want to be a bother..well i guess i'll take it in college..sucks..3 more yrs



Deleted User	May 22 2008, 11:19:48 AM Post #42
Deleted User	im self-studying too and i felt some frustration of not learning the right and easy way. until a friend hand a book and a software were i can learn/memorize common adjectives,noun and verb (the easy way) it's far from the basic learning but it help a lot. Since my hobby is to watch jdoramas it helps a lot too :) let's do our best gudluck to us! ganbarimasu!
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Deleted User	Jun 1 2008, 02:10:20 PM Post #43
Deleted User	I am thinking of getting Japanese classes after my national exams end at around mid november. Hoping that my chinese would help some with the Kanji :sry Main motivation for learning is how I really love Japanese songs, and how I want to watch an anime without subs. Bet that'll take years..
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Yui-Lover	Jun 1 2008, 05:53:40 PM Post #44
Unregistered	Next year when i am grade 9 i am taking Japanese so i can write letters to YUI. Also i can understand what she's saying and read some of her stuff. :clap
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by8n7	Jun 2 2008, 02:11:29 AM Post #45
<# this is my heart to you Posts: 1,852 Group: YUI Lovers Member #4,582 Joined: Oct 17 2007	my stupid school..doesnt have Japanese class.. ur so lucky..



Deleted User	Jun 5 2008, 10:58:51 AM Post #46
Deleted User	i start to learn japanese via some website recommended under this topic. Really thx to you guys !! ありがとうございます　!!　:clap btw, what is the meaning of "ganbarimasu" ?? how is it written in hiragana and kanji ?? お願いします　 :please
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Kippei	Jun 5 2008, 01:17:04 PM Post #47
内閣総理大臣 Posts: 500 Group: YUI Lovers Member #6,286 Joined: Jan 15 2008	頑張ります - to endure, to try one's best



Deleted User	Jun 5 2008, 02:19:23 PM Post #48
Deleted User	@Kippei: thx for it !! :clap :clap
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YUI, je t'aime!	Jun 15 2009, 01:59:02 PM Post #49
Posts: 111 Group: YUI Lovers Member #8,142 Joined: Mar 16 2008	Since I'm interested in Asian culture in general and since I want to learn at least one Asian language aaaaand since I don't understand a single word YUI says (except for Woooooo.... Wang and Adieunara) I thought about learning some Japanese this summer. Sadly the classes here are expensive and many classes started before or will start after summer O_o So I thought about trying to learn some by myself. Are there any ppl here who made experiences by self-study or Japanese ppl who got any Idea how to start, what to take care of etc? I'm grateful for all kind of tips and tricky, thx in advance ^^



Ashura21	Jun 15 2009, 02:20:39 PM Post #50
.:HELLO YOU! YUI, You're My Heaven:. Posts: 276 Group: YUI Lovers Member #3,242 Joined: May 9 2007	You can start learning from the websites in this topic. If you could get a book that lets you practise writing Japanese in hiragana, you could start learning quicker. After you are comfortable with hiragana and katakana, then move on to Kanji. Watching a lot of J-dramas can help too, but not anime since you might not want to learn speaking abnormal Japanese. However, the best and fastest way to learn is to get a good Japanese friend who would spend time talking in Japanese to you, and correct your mistakes when you speak Japanese.
	~Special Thanks to Nao for the YUI sig~


YUI, je t'aime!	Jun 15 2009, 02:54:04 PM Post #51
Posts: 111 Group: YUI Lovers Member #8,142 Joined: Mar 16 2008	Thank you for the information. (More hints from other people welcome ;) ) This might be a stupid question but most of the time when I'm looking for information about Japanese I don't see people speaking/writing about the vocabulary. Let's say "How do you learn the vocabulary?" I post the question this way since I know that the grammar is very different and there is no such thing as conjugation and flection etc.



Ashura21	Jun 15 2009, 03:13:54 PM Post #52
.:HELLO YOU! YUI, You're My Heaven:. Posts: 276 Group: YUI Lovers Member #3,242 Joined: May 9 2007	YUI je t'aime!,Jun 16 2009, 12:54 AM Let's say "How do you learn the vocabulary?" I post the question this way since I know that the grammar is very different and there is no such thing as conjugation and flection etc. Vocab is a bit of a problem and something you could only learn better through experience; the more you are exposed to the words, the more you remember how to use them. So in my opinion, learn the vocabulary used in songs with the romaji and translation to aid you by crossmatching the words, but you must not neglect the Japanese text lyrics. It's also important to get to know common daily words that people use in conversation, probably by looking them up in dictionary (find words that you often use in your daily conversation). Then after you get some backgrounds, watch Japanese dramas and relate what you hear with the subtitles to gain more understanding; usually some vocabs are repeated more often than the others. This kind of thing takes time and effort, especially when you learn by yourself. If you get a Japanese friend, even online is good, you can get them to teach you day-to-day vocabs. There is this forum full of Japanese students who want to learn English, so you can provide a two-way learning if the other is willing. The only problem is that most of them can't really speak English so it's difficult to communicate with them. :sry
	~Special Thanks to Nao for the YUI sig~


mrsean	Jun 15 2009, 03:24:17 PM Post #53
el otro gringo Posts: 481 Group: YUI Lovers Member #24,590 Joined: Feb 19 2009	I'm glad to see so many people interested in Japanese! I've been studying for about 3 years, on and off, and am finally able to carry on some normal conversations (though I'm sure I ruin the grammar frequently). A few comments: 1) Learning vocab. It comes down to rote memorization, at first. No other way around it. I used flash cards and spent 15 minutes a day going over the words for the week's lesson. Nothing complicated, and really not that hard to do. You'd be amazed how the words start adding up. 2) Grammar: Sucks. It's very different from English and has many more subtle rules. From what I can tell, living there is really the only way to really internalize it. I'm currently studying for JLPT 2, and the vocabulary and Kanji really aren't that bad. But the grammar rules and usages are killing me. 3) Kanji. It is very hard at first, and very easy later on. When I started, it was my worst and most hated part of Japanese. I just couldn't remember the random-looking lines and squiggles. But you slowly start recognizing radicals (parts of the kanji) and they become easier to write and understand. In fact, there are plenty of times that I can now translate kanji without know how to pronounce it. I use music (like YUI) and anime to learn more, in between studying and trips to Japan. Hearing people using Japanese in everyday situations and speech is great for listening comprehension, and it's much easier to memorize sentences and phrases with music. I'm sure all of you can sing along with YUI and not always know what you're saying, right? Well, translate the lyrics, and you now can understand (and say) lots of stuff! How useful it'll be, being able to say "Reassuring myself, I fly over the mountains and sea." in Japanese, I don't know, but it helps me with grammar, which I need :) Sorry for the length of the post. Minna-san, ganbate! Oh, and 2 very useful tools for Japanese studying: 1) Textbook: Genki I & II 2) CD: Pimsleur Japanese 1-3 Both available online (Borders, Barnes and Noble, etc) Both fantastic.
	Dokutsubo Translated


mrsean	Jun 15 2009, 03:27:03 PM Post #54
el otro gringo Posts: 481 Group: YUI Lovers Member #24,590 Joined: Feb 19 2009	Ashura21, thanks for the link. The forum looks quite interesting!
	Dokutsubo Translated


YUI, je t'aime!	Jun 15 2009, 03:32:40 PM Post #55
Posts: 111 Group: YUI Lovers Member #8,142 Joined: Mar 16 2008	@ both thx for the input @ mrsean: thx for the length of the post. ;) Since I speak german and have to learn this insane grammar and since I learn Latin I'm kind used to many special rules. And I would say that the (british) English grammar is also very demanding. Of course I won't compare it to Asian langauges since they all seem to be quite different. But I think learning crazy grammatics kinda gets ppl used and prepared to learning "different and crazy" grammatics. ^^ I realy have to see what I will do. The main goal would still be starting with Japanese lessons here in Zurich. But if it's not possible I'll try to start by myself. oh yes, thx for the link Ashura21 :good



Ashura21	Jun 15 2009, 03:39:24 PM Post #56
.:HELLO YOU! YUI, You're My Heaven:. Posts: 276 Group: YUI Lovers Member #3,242 Joined: May 9 2007	@both: You are welcome~ ^^ @mrsean: JLPT 2??? AWESOME! Good for you! 1 more level and you're ready to take on Japanese University and practically anything in Japan!!! Amazing really! :clap @YUI, je t'aime!: Wow! You know many languages! I'm sure you wouldn't find much difficulty in learning Japanese then~ I personally prefer the grammar to vocabs since I'm lazy to remember stuffs =O Good luck on your studies~! :clap
	~Special Thanks to Nao for the YUI sig~


cherii	Jun 16 2009, 05:24:23 AM Post #57
Waiting for the right moment Posts: 3,377 Group: YUI Lovers Member #2,147 Joined: Jan 5 2007	I'm studying Japanese at school. I didn't choose it for years 9 and 10. I did it in Years 7 and 8, and picked it up this year. (Year 11) I surprise myself sometimes, because I can pull out a random word and know what it means without even thinking about it. Recently,we've been working on "Plain Form" of Japanese speech.



Ashura21	Jun 16 2009, 07:09:56 AM Post #58
.:HELLO YOU! YUI, You're My Heaven:. Posts: 276 Group: YUI Lovers Member #3,242 Joined: May 9 2007	Hey long time no see! 元気？ Taking Japanese in high school is the best! You have friends to talk with, and a teacher to ask~
	~Special Thanks to Nao for the YUI sig~


Fujii_Itsuki	Jun 16 2009, 12:43:11 PM Post #59
YUI-ism Worshipper #1 Posts: 724 Group: YUI Lovers Member #3,425 Joined: Jun 9 2007	I'll have to admit that I started running before I learn how to walk in terms of Japanese language. Lol...I guess I started learning through 2nd hand experience. Watching anime and J-dramas. It came to a point that I rarely need to refer to the subtitles much except for those more technical terms that you don't find in everyday conversations. After that only I took a basic Japanese class(mostly basic grammar, hiragana/katakana & conversations) for one of my uni credits. It was either language or sports so I chose something that is worth the money, is fun and I'm fairly knowledgeable in~ =3 Sad to say, I still stumble at reading since I only know a handful of kanji and never took further japanese classes... -__-; For online text, firefox dictionary add-ons like rikaichan helps a ton. You just mouse over a particular Japanese word/phrase and its corresponding meaning and hiragana would pop out. You guys should definitely check it out if you haven't. =D I did a bunch of translations for the Ueno Juri LJ (mostly simple stuff like diary entries/news before moving onto articles and radio/tv interviews) and translating or the attempt to really helps the learning process. YUI's lyrics are a good start too~ :good Link for rikaichan: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/2471
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mrsean	Jun 16 2009, 07:35:46 PM Post #60
el otro gringo Posts: 481 Group: YUI Lovers Member #24,590 Joined: Feb 19 2009	@Fujii_Itsuki: Thanks for the rikaichan link. That's a wonderful add-on! I'll have to exert some self-control not to rely solely on it for translating!
	Dokutsubo Translated


takachan	Jun 17 2009, 03:39:19 PM Post #61
takachan a.k.a. yukio is a faithful follower of YUIism Posts: 896 Group: YUI Lovers Member #4,156 Joined: Sep 18 2007	haha i'm going to be taking japanese class in university this year. =D i'm excited, i'll get the cert of japanese proficiency after two more levels. But for me personally, i too self-learn it casually, through j-drama and music, and the internet + computer. I find it easy to write japanese because i can use the help of useful tools online, like dictionaries etc, and also my computer can type japanese easily, without knowing kanji since i just press a key to convert LOLL It's kind of bad. I can type emails to my japanese friends no problem But understanding, and reading japanese is a problem.. = =
	takachan a.k.a yukio Youtube Channel Secondhand Memories (A Serial Japanese Style Cellphone Novel) 1st and most popular cell phone novel in North America! Check it out! Goran kudasai!


Rhackus!	Jun 18 2009, 06:20:12 AM Post #62
Posts: 318 Group: YUI Lovers Member #17,667 Joined: Oct 9 2008	Well if u really want to learn a language well u have to use it often and read it .. i guess thats a good way to start... Well, i live in singapore and want to go for japanese classes here? anyone wanna tagged along?
	Lalala~


Miyuki	Jun 19 2009, 01:38:23 PM Post #63
YUI Argentina! Posts: 337 Group: YUI Lovers Member #25,336 Joined: Jun 2 2009	i'm studing japanese since 5 years ago... it's really enjoyable!! I love it! I'm actually not so good... i find pronountiation very easy since my language is spanish, and it's similar... Also grammar is easy for me. I don't have to study very much to understand the japanese language roules... But kanji is really difficult for me!! I can read few kanjis and write fewer.. :S so that's my problem... i think it is usefull to put the name of things in your own house to learn. For example, in a mirror you can stick a shit of paper where you have written "kagami" in kanji. I also can't understand very well when people talk in japanese... i should go to Japan to learn XD (i wish...)



takachan	Jun 20 2009, 03:56:20 PM Post #64
takachan a.k.a. yukio is a faithful follower of YUIism Posts: 896 Group: YUI Lovers Member #4,156 Joined: Sep 18 2007	yeah pronounciation is easy for me. because i'm fluent in English, Cantonese, and i've learned French for 10 years, and i know some spanish. i got pretty much the pronounciation pretty natural haha. its good if u know alot of languages, ur tongue can do more XDD
	takachan a.k.a yukio Youtube Channel Secondhand Memories (A Serial Japanese Style Cellphone Novel) 1st and most popular cell phone novel in North America! Check it out! Goran kudasai!


YUI, je t'aime!	Jun 20 2009, 04:13:37 PM Post #65
Posts: 111 Group: YUI Lovers Member #8,142 Joined: Mar 16 2008	Cantonese? Nice, that's actually my favourite Asian language, but here in Switzerland they only teach Mandarin. I bought some book and CDs today to start learning Japanese. But sadly I won't be able to go to Japanese classes during summer. So I will learn some by myself. I'm talented with languages but learning Japanese will be a new challenge for me. And I'm sure it will help me a lot and bring me new experiences concerning languages.



takachan	Jun 20 2009, 11:21:20 PM Post #66
takachan a.k.a. yukio is a faithful follower of YUIism Posts: 896 Group: YUI Lovers Member #4,156 Joined: Sep 18 2007	you like CANTONESE? LOL I DONT LIKE IT. it doesn't sound so nice... JApanese is so cute and rhythmic and expressive, mandarin is very elegant and gorgeous of a language... i prefer both of those. XD cantonese is so much rougher.. = =
	takachan a.k.a yukio Youtube Channel Secondhand Memories (A Serial Japanese Style Cellphone Novel) 1st and most popular cell phone novel in North America! Check it out! Goran kudasai!


YUI, je t'aime!	Jun 21 2009, 06:32:24 AM Post #67
Posts: 111 Group: YUI Lovers Member #8,142 Joined: Mar 16 2008	Well, before I knew anything about Asia I started watching Hong Kong movies. I soon ordered the DVDs from Hong Kong. And I heard the language in over 200 movies and I saw many of them several times. I bought my first Shaw Brothers (Mandarin) movie very late and at that time I didn't realy like Mandarin. After a few movies I started to like it but in this case of the movies my "Home" was Hong Kong. I like Mandarin very much now since I was in Shanghai and Beijing. Have to say I prefer the "Beijing Mandarin" (if you can call it like this), sounds a bit different than in Shanghai, as far as i can judge. I also like Japanese but my number one will always be Cantonese. :good ------ I bought a book and CDs today to start learning Japanese, I won't be able to take lessons any time soon. It's great to see how languages work which ware spoken so far away. Ashura21 was very kind to help me out and answer my "newbie" questions. Domo arigato gozaimasu :good



Ids	Jun 21 2009, 12:22:10 PM Post #68
- Posts: 1,210 Group: YUI Lovers Member #15,037 Joined: Aug 12 2008	I'm too young to be really studying allready, but I started a while ago with learning myself some basic phrases. After that I found a very nice teacher who thought me a lot by a book and her knowledge of the language. Right now I'm planning on studying Japanese after I've finished high school. :clap
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MonkOfWar	Jun 21 2009, 10:52:42 PM Post #69
M249 SAW piles up the bodies in BF3. Posts: 886 Group: YUI Lovers Member #24,957 Joined: Apr 7 2009	I've learnt a bit of Japanese from 'Teach Yourself: Japanese' becoz I watch quite a bit of anime and wanted to learn how to make my own sentences. Can't be bothered to pay up for lessons. When I use Japanese (often to people who don't speak it) I still can't say out sentences without thinking real hard how to form it. I always use the plain form rather than the polite version. I only use polite form as a base for forming words that end with -tai -��, -nagara�@-�Ȃ�� and others like that. It's not as hard as Chinese which is my actual momma tongue. I don't really like the sound of Mandarin although unlike Cantonese, you can write it as you speak it. In Cantonese, how you write it is different from how you say it. You CAN pronounce written chinese words in Cantonese but this normally only applies to songs. Having said that, spoken canto does have words for it but people DON'T write them out in books or sign posts..... maybe only used in scripts? You want to hear a REALLY funny Chinese dialect, go for HOKKIEN. The dialect spoken in Singapore. Even normal words sound funny or plain rude. Unfortunately being a dialect there are no self teach guides. It's totally oral history.



Ty_Sylicus	Jul 17 2009, 06:05:41 PM Post #70
YUI's Green Mouse >'.'< Posts: 1,682 Group: Moderator Member #4 Joined: Dec 26 2005	I've been studying for a few months, and it's a bit addicting. It's exciting when you listen to Jpop and here "this" and "that" word. lol. I listen almost exclusively to Jpop, but I do not think that helps with learning Japanese much. Instead, reading romaji lyrics and relating to the vocab and grammar helps more. Once I got a song's meaning of form down, I was able to remember a lot of that while listening to it. YUI's songs are the best too! Her vocals are so sweet. <3 Been talking on the phone to my girlfriend. She's Thai and Laotian, and has studied French in high school. Sadly, she's not much help to me, other than I've been teaching her what little bit of Japanese I understand so far. haha. Also, I took Spanish classes in high school, so Japanese pronunciation seems a lot easier to me. I'm with Miyuki on the post-it notes. Too bad my mom won't let me stick them anywhere outside my room. XD
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AznGFXboy	Jul 18 2009, 05:37:41 PM Post #71
Posts: 457 Group: YUI Lovers Member #25,483 Joined: Jun 27 2009	i'm currently self-learning at home. just when to my local japantown and looked through the textbooks to see which one seemed better for me. although, progress is going really slow cause of school =(



EugeneAng	Jul 19 2009, 10:18:44 AM Post #72
YUI-chan wa...Boku no....Insupire-shion. Posts: 805 Group: YUI Lovers Member #24,815 Joined: Mar 21 2009	@machtechx:You learning Japanese?Where?i'm learning in the School of Cambridge,Jurong East branch. Anyways,i started learning basic Japanese about two months ago,i just received my certificate for completion of basic Japanese course yesterday. For me,perhaps it's the teacher,but lessons were never boring or tedious for me.My teacher is a native speaker,so it's quite funny to hear him mix Chinese(although he can only say deng yi xia,which means wait a moment in chinese),English and Japanese altogether in a lesson. If you have learnt Chinese before it will be a great help because of the kanji in Japanese,kanji characters and Chinese characters often mean the same thing,they are 80% similar,or so says my teacher.Only thing i'm having trouble with now is memorising the katakana,and a little hiragana,although i managed to memorise most of the hiragana.Learing vocabulary bit by bit will surprise you when you listen to YUI's songs and catch snatches of words here and there that were previously alien to you,though i catch random words like shoes lol.Can't wait to start the intermediate course! My,that was a long post.
	So whenever i think that doing chores is a real drag i tell myself that YUI came up with songs while drying her laundry.


Rhackus!	Jul 19 2009, 10:20:25 AM Post #73
Posts: 318 Group: YUI Lovers Member #17,667 Joined: Oct 9 2008	i want but not attending jus finding someone to come with me in case it gets too dry at least have a friend u noe.?
	Lalala~


Miyuki	Jul 22 2009, 01:17:55 AM Post #74
YUI Argentina! Posts: 337 Group: YUI Lovers Member #25,336 Joined: Jun 2 2009	yes, YUI's deffinitly a very nice choice to learn to hear or read in japanese. Her lyrics are written in a simple japanese. So, i use to practice trying to listen or read YUI n_n in where i'm studing, we use the book "Minna no Nihongo". It's old, but realy good! I recommend you for who wants to learn. Also there are simple videos of each unit in which you can practice listening and comprehension. And there are all in youtube w



azmikun	Jul 22 2009, 11:32:19 AM Post #75
I ♥ ??? Posts: 1,945 Group: YUI Lovers Member #25,299 Joined: May 29 2009	i learning japanase in university and already one year know, basiccaly you have to remembered all katakana and hiragana, after that learn basic grammar and partical such 'wa', 'wo', 'to', etc. it's not really difficult if to understand... ganbarinasai!!! :good
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SLADE RAISER	Jul 28 2009, 12:59:18 AM Post #76
lost heaven Posts: 316 Group: YUI Lovers Member #25,396 Joined: Jun 10 2009	i took a year of Japanese and did some independent studies on it. all i need to learn is basic grammar and kanji. the hiragana and katakana, ive nailed and some vocabulary as well. :clap
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bleach86	Jul 28 2009, 12:28:26 PM Post #77
Rolling LOVE Posts: 306 Group: YUI Lovers Member #5,863 Joined: Dec 20 2007	one tip i can give is ... if u have trouble understanding a sentence .. try reading it backwards it sometimes makes more sense lol
	"In order to love yesterday, let's live today without regrets. I want to live tomorrow with the same feeling as well".


ijs13	Jul 28 2009, 01:44:20 PM Post #78
Glad I met YUI Posts: 373 Group: YUI Lovers Member #24,722 Joined: Mar 7 2009	i'm going to bookmark this and browse this on phone. i might find something useful here! hehe
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Ids	Jul 28 2009, 07:38:02 PM Post #79
- Posts: 1,210 Group: YUI Lovers Member #15,037 Joined: Aug 12 2008	bleach86 Jul 28 2009, 12:28 PM one tip i can give is ... if u have trouble understanding a sentence .. try reading it backwards it sometimes makes more sense lol You're right indeed XD when there's a sentence with lots of particles like 'wa' 'to' and 'ni' (that's what they're called right?) like 'boku wa YUI-san to Tokyo ni ikimasu' (Im a beginner so I have no idea if that's right :P) but then you first need to look at the 'wa, to and ni' to know the purpose of the word that they're with. So, it could be handy to read backwards ^^
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bleach86	Aug 3 2009, 12:44:46 AM Post #80
Rolling LOVE Posts: 306 Group: YUI Lovers Member #5,863 Joined: Dec 20 2007	yes they're called particles.. im still learning but what realli helped me was reading YUI's Lyrics and YUI Diary lol! I think I started with YUI 'umbrella' the lyrics are easy enough to understand ... but I like the simplicity of YUI's songs
	"In order to love yesterday, let's live today without regrets. I want to live tomorrow with the same feeling as well".

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